Debating a Libertarian Socialist
Stranger: It’s a bit unrealistic to say every person can create a means of production in order to support themselves. But yeah working for yourself is a way to avoid having your labor exploited.
You: well that is what it means to build the means of production and yes it is incredible difficult I agree, so why would you want to discourage that?
You: I think you are reaully upset at reality and the fact that our universe is chaos.
Stranger: Why not have means of production owner by the working class to allow more people to avoid having their labor exploited?
You: I mean there a co-ops all around, I think what you don't understand by your own admission. it is really shitty to work for free and suffer to create the means of production that is why it is mostly individuals who attempt that in the pursue of wealth.
Stranger: It’s a bit much to say I’m upset with the universe because I want an economic system that favors the working class.
You: well it is you think you have a right from not starve and from not getting hurt. It is as funny to think that reality would care less about a fantasy where pain and suffering is optional...
Stranger: What? Don’t know where I said people won’t even be hurt. But yeah I think people shouldn’t struggle with hunger, homelessness, poor medical care in a system with enough wealth to avoid these things. If forming a means of production is so shitty and such a struggle why isn’t the working class coming together to form means of production a preferable option?
You: well that is the million dollar question for you to answer, why isn't the working class overpower the business owners and create the means of production themselves? could be because like you said no one wants to work for free and it is easier to see means of production already made and claim those as yours wihtout really putting the effort.
Stranger: It’s because capitalists have spent nearly the last century putting down any remotely socialist movements..
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